Answer: God is love, but God is also righteously just. He punishes sins and Jesus says He will come back to throw the wicked into the lake of fire (one of the types of people not going to heaven mentioned in 1 Corinthians chapter 6 being homosexuals).
Inquiry: Doesn't the Bible also say wearing mixed fabrics and eating shelfish is a sin?
Answer: You fail to understand that Scriptures have an old and new law. The old being only for the Israelites of that time, the new being universal (which applies to the whole world). Homosexuality is a sin condemned both in the new and old law (Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:8-10).
Inquiry: Why are you condemning homosexuality, when heterosexuals sin all the time?
Answer: Because heterosexuality itself isn't a sin, while homosexuality itself is a sin. I condemn those sins committed by heterosexuals just as I condemn homosexuality.
Inquiry: Why do you hate homosexuals?
Answer: I don't, I hate homosexuality. Hating actions from a person is different from hating the actual individual.
Inquiry: Times have changed, it is the 21st century now.
Answer: God hasn't changed, nor will He ever (Malachi 3:6). That includes His opinion on these things.
Inquiry: How does this affect you?
Answer: Well, how does mine speaking against it affect you? I am commanded by Scripture to reprove what Scripture says is wicked (Ephesians 5:11). Sin ultimately affects all men, and since mainstream media and even the government has shown support for this sin, it is ultimately a Christian's duty to warn society of its coming disaster for such.
Inquiry: Homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody, the lifestyle is no different than heterosexuals'.
Long answer:
Documented facts about the homosexual lifestyle:
- Homosexuals more likely to suffer from depression: "A new study in the United Kingdom has revealed that homosexuals are about 50% more likely to suffer from depression and engage in substance abuse than the rest of the population, reports Health24.com . . . the risk of suicide jumped over 200% if an individual had engaged in a homosexual lifestyle . . . the lifespan of a homosexual is on average 24 years shorter than that of a heterosexual . . . While the Health 24 article suggested that homosexuals may be pushed to substance abuse and suicide because of anti-homosexual cultural and family pressures, empirical tests have shown that there is no difference in homosexual health risk depending on the level of tolerance in a particular environment. Homosexuals in the United States and Denmark - the latter of which is acknowledged to be highly tolerant of homosexuality - both die on average in their early 50's, or in their 40's if AIDS is the cause of death. The average age for all residents in either country ranges from the mid-to-upper-70s."(onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=255614)
- Breast Cancer higher among Lesbians: "Breast cancer is the most common cancer diagnosed among women and is the leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States, following cancers of the skin and lung. Recent research has identified risk factors for breast cancer that may differentially affect lesbian and bisexual women, including nulliparity and higher rates of alcohol consumption and overweight, that may place this population at geater [sic] risk than heterosexual women of developing breast cancer." (Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.showFeature&FeatureID=319&E:\ColdFusion9\verity\Data\dummy.txt)
- "In CDC's study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (See more statistics on Promiscuity at http://www.carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity)
- 2% of U.S. population is gay yet it accounts for 61% of HIV infection: "Men who have sex with men remain the group most heavily affected by new HIV infections. While CDC estimates that MSM represent only 2 percent of the U.S. population, they accounted for the majority (61 percent; 29,300) of all new HIV infections in 2009. Young MSM (ages 13 to 29) were most severely affected, representing more than one quarter of all new HIV infections nationally (27 percent; 12,900 in 2009)." (Center for Disease Control, cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVIncidencePressRelease.html)
- "Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s . . . ” (Center for Disease Control, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm)
Homosexuality and reduced Lifespan
- Gay men lifespan shorter than non gay men: "The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general.Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657." (Exodus Global Alliance, exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
- "In 2007, MSM [Men Sex with Men] were 44 to 86 times as likely to be diagnosed with HIV compared with other men, and 40 to 77 times as likely as women." (Center for Disease Control, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm)
- Domestic Violence higher among homosexuals: "'the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population.'(Gwat Yong Lie and Sabrina Gentlewarrier, "Intimate Violence in Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice Implications," Journal of Social Service Research 15 (1991): 41–59." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
- Sex of women with women at greater health risk than women with men: "For women, a history of sex with women may be a marker for increased risk of adverse sexual, reproductive, and general health outcomes compared with women who reported sex exclusively with men." (American Journal of Public Health, ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/6/1126)
Don't preach your main stream crap! You know what else is main stream and supported by many? Drugs, tattoos and piercings yet no one bats an eye! You're choosing to cherry pick and target this specific sin from the bible.
ReplyDeleteMany people do things that increase their risk to stuff or harms them. So get out of here with your statistics
You have a good point, I just fixed it.
DeleteSome of the more famous and egregious examples of morality in the New Testament include provisions which would have required Germans to venerate Hitler (1st Romans 13: 1-5), rejoice as he exterminated the Jews (1 Thessalonians 2: 4-5), treat women as second class citizens (1 Timothy 2:11-12), all in addition to the views you expressed on homosexuality. It seems to be the case, then, that if you are one of those chosen for an eternal reward in heaven, you have to be a really horrible person who would make an outstanding Nazi. Especially when you look at all the text that makes a virtue out of blind obedience to other men (1 Timothy 6:1, Ephesians 6:5-6, Titus 2:9-10, 1 Peter 2:18, 1 Corinthinas 7:21-24, basically all of Paul's letter to the Romans).
ReplyDeleteSo my question is, if the President of the United States was promoting the ethnic cleansing of Muslims, would you obey, or would you resist the genocide understanding that you would be denying yourself a place in Heaven and securing yourself a place in hell?
Those are horrific interpretations of those Scriptures.
DeleteRomans 13:1 says, "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God." If this is so, what about the bad governments like the Nazis or the communist regimes where they killed millions? If God is the one who sets up governments, are we supposed to obey those bad governments?
The answer is no.
We are to obey governments unless they violate Scripture. Acts 5:29 says, "We must obey God rather than men." Whenever a government violates biblical teaching, Christians are obligated to disobey that government. For example, if a government were to declare that we should kill all Asians, or immigrants, or people with Down's syndrome, we should disobey. Governments are run by people and often become corrupt. Furthermore, the Bible never tells us to obey governments in contradiction to the revealed word of God.
1 Thessalonians 2:4-5 "But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. For neither at any time used we flattering words*, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God is witness:"
I do not see anywhere in that text where it says to rejoice in the slaughtering of Jews.
1 Timothy 6:1 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed."
This verse is teaching to respect authority, why is that a bad thing? Do you count your boss at work worthy?
Ephesians 6:5-6: Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
DeleteAgain, I see nothing wrong with servants obeying their masters. In Biblical times, a servant was a servant because he had to pay off debts.
1 Peter 2:18: Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
Here is the verse many have problems with, but let me explain something: To be froward means to be habitually disposed to disobedience and opposition to someone or something like a law. Someone that is being forward is being willfully contrary to someone or something and is not easily managed. Similes of the word forward are crookedness, to go wrong, go crooked, backsliding, twisted, distorted, or crooked so now let’s explore what forward means in the Bible and use it in the context in which is it written. Since the word “forward” is used more often in the King James Bible that is where I will try and biblically define the word.
Since we know what forward means we can see why God detests a forward heart as the psalmist writes “A froward heart shall depart from me: I will not know a wicked person” (101:4) because “the froward is abomination to the Lord” (Prov 3:22) so “Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee” (Prov 4:24). If “Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord” (Prov 6:14). As far as Solomon is concerned “All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them” (Prov 8:8) because he realized that God hates a forward mouth (Prov 8:13) as “the froward tongue shall be cut out” (Prov 10:31b). For those who have not the Spirit of God it is normal that “the mouth of the wicked speaketh forwardness” (Prov 10:32). The point in this paragraph is “They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the Lord” (Prov 11:20).
Peter wrote “Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward” (1st Pet 2:18) showing that even if someone is froward of heart and mouth to us, we should not respond in kind because then we lower ourselves to their level. David wrote that “With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself unsavory” (2nd Sam 22:27) so we have a choice. We can chose what comes out of our mouth and show ourselves as being pure or we can speak with a froward mouth and show ourselves unsavory to God. Regarding any nation or people and even any person God says “I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith” (Duet 32:20) so a froward mouth or heart is an evil, wicked heart and means that they are habitually disposed to disobedience and God resists such people. For those who refuse to repent Solomon writes “Thorns and snares are in the way of the forward [but] he that doth keep his soul shall be far from them” (Prov 22:5).
As for 1 Corinthians 7:21-24, that is a bad passage to use to prove your point, this is speaking of our releasing of spiritual bondage in Christ Jesus.
Just another homophobe, why are you such a homophobe?
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